How effective will isinglass be to clear beer when I did not use Irish moss when I boiled. I know isinglass charged particles attach to the opposite charged particles produced by the Irish moss. My debate is whether to use cheap gelatin now, or to try out my isinglass. I have never fined before this.
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Issinglass may be totally ineffective if you have too much colloidal haze which is a possible consequence of not using kettle finings. This paper from the MBAA states ...
For isinglass to work effectively, brewing literature states
that the beer needs to have a particle distribution in the range
of 1 × 10 6 particles in each of the following sizes: <2,
2–10, and >10 μ m. When there are too many or too few par-
ticles in these ranges, poor clarity, poor settling, or higher beer
losses can result (13,16).
When there are too many particles in the beer, the use of
auxiliary finings can be helpful to reduce the amount of parti-
cles to the optimum range stated above. Kettle finings are
added to the kettle, and auxiliary finings are typically added
prior to isinglass in the cellar, or they can be used further up-
stream in the process.
What's more isinglass is difficult to prepare and difficult to store e.g. Murphy and Sons recommend ...
• At no time during mixing or storage should the temperature be
allowed to exceed 14° C (57° F) or fall below 10° C (50° F)
Gelatin is a better choice for homebrewers, although I prefer PolyClar.
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1Interesting paper. It basically says isinglass purchased at a LHBS or shipped would only function as gelitan with little fining abilities since it's denatured above 59°F and turns to gelitan. I've never seen it in the refridgerated sections. If correct, this could be why homebrewers rarely get fantastic results. Sound like most applications are just utilizing it as a less effective form of gelitan. Commented Mar 29, 2018 at 15:47
Isinglass will work just as well without Irish Moss in the boil.
As far as Irish Moss and Isinglass working together they are really for two different things.
Irish Moss is intended to flucculate and drop out hop and grain matter in your cold break. Then this trub is left behind in the kettle/whirlpool and not transfered to the fermenter.
Isinglass is best at fining out yeast after fermentation.
Personally I use neither. Cold crash is all that's really needed, gelatin if I want it rushed.
I used Isinglass once, it came with a wine kit and there was no Irish moss involved, but another product that I can't remember the name (perhaps chitosane?). It should work on its own, wikipedia mentions that :
Isinglass is sometimes used with an auxiliary fining, which further accelerates the process of sedimentation.
Isinglass should precipitate yeast cells effectively, but Irish moss seems to coagulate proteins. They complement each other from what I understand.
- For the difference (or not) between gelatin and isinglass see here.
- Gelatin is easier to use than isinglass.
- There is no need to use Irish moss before using gelatin or isinglass, they work independent of each other