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There is a history of people using oak barrels to age and mature beer. These days people often use bourbon soaked oak chips to flavour beer in the secondary.

Also, I have seen people asking about using maple, spruce and pine on the site? Regarding, spruce/pine they have been looking for a pine/spruce flavour that you would get from the needles.

What experience have people had using these and are there any woods you should avoid due to health/food safety risks?

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    FWIW, spruce tips are added when they are far more tender and less resinous that the wood and the 'needles' themselves. They are picked as new growth before the get woody.
    – brewchez
    Commented May 13, 2016 at 16:06
  • I'm really afraid this may be too broad.
    – Mołot
    Commented May 13, 2016 at 16:48
  • I was looking for info on this myself and was finding very little on the forum about this topic, beyond oak, maple, pine/spruce. I was hoping that through making it slightly broader than asking about ash or elm I could elicit a slightly deeper view of wood and aging of beer, than just "Can I age my beer with White Ash?"
    – Mr_road
    Commented May 13, 2016 at 16:57
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    Answered to the best of my ability, but it was hard to get specific with not so specific question.
    – Mołot
    Commented May 13, 2016 at 17:05

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You may be interested in Wood Toxicity and Allergen Chart presented at The Wood Database. With very important warning:

Just because any given wood is not listed on the chart, does not mean that it is completely safe to use. It simply means that adverse reactions have not been reported as of yet.

That said, there is over 200 kinds of wood in this one source. More in others. And that's only about wood, no say about wood smoke for smoked grain, spruce tips, et cetera. Listing all wood-related dangers is far too broad for QA format.

Only reliable way is to research particular kind you think you want to use it, and the way you want to use.

That said, some choices are known as safe.

Oak is usually OK, but don't use raw. Way too much tannins. Either use roasted oak, or chips from a barrel that had stronger alcohol maturing in it. That way tannins will either be thermally neutralized or washed out. Similar precautions about other leafy tree woods, if they have tannins in significant amount and are not on toxicity lists.

For conifers, and some leaf trees, there is an issue of resin. Some resins are poisonous. Most have bad taste. Succinic acid, acetylsalicylic acid and others may be found in amounts that can ruin the taste. Or not, depends on kind of wood, season it was cut, way it was treated when it dried, and so on.

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  • Note that that list has oak of the Quercus genus, of which white oak is, listed at 2/4 stars of toxicity.
    – Kingfisher
    Commented Aug 7, 2019 at 15:40
  • @Kingfisher and it is not suitable for beer raw. Either waxed, roasted, or as a second use after some strong alcohol. So from the brewers perspective, yes, it is consistent.
    – Mołot
    Commented Aug 7, 2019 at 15:54
  • Just emphasizing that the appearance of a wood on that list does not render it unusable for brewing. That being said, I am not going to start testing treatments of milky mangrove trying to render it usable.
    – Kingfisher
    Commented Aug 7, 2019 at 16:50
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Over the weekend I kept thinking about this and I have done a bit more digging and found this article from bear-flavored.com, in which they speak about brewing with 4 different woods and discovered this company Black Swan Cooperage who make barrels and aging additions out of 8 different woods listed below:

  • Cherry - Butter brickle, ripe cherry, fresh grass, meringue, light fried bread/Belgian waffle
  • Hard Maple - Maple candy, light spice-nutmeg, cinnamon, syrup, bread/bakery, cream hint of cocoa
  • Hickory - Honey, BBQ, hickory smoked bacon, apple sauce, cocoa coconut Red Oak
  • Red berries, toasted marshmallow, light grass, baking bread, butterscotch
  • Sassafras - Vanilla, Sage/Spice, Root Beer, Mint
  • Soft Maple - Yellow cake, light smoke, banana, nut, toasted bread, hint of orange spice
  • White Ash - Campfire, marshmallow, light grass, rising bread dough, light sweetness (adds different mouth-feel dimension)
  • White Oak - Vanilla, toasted coconut, cinnamon, pepper, sweet baked bread, caramel
  • Yellow Birch - Toffee, butterscotch, honey croissant, light lemon, tropical fruit

I also found this thread on beeradvocate:

"While I haven't experimented with Cypress in beer, I have brewed with a variety of other conifers such as white pine, douglas fir, long leaf heart pine, and red cedar. None have been promising; all have imparted nuances of turpentine and/or other unfavorable chemicals. "

and

"I have handled yew wood plenty without a skin reaction, and that wood can kill you if ingested."

In addition I found a list from a wood working site of toxic woods4 which other users have flagged up and looks very informative. The two that leap out of the list as avoids are Yew and Oleander both marked as Direct Toxin potency 4 out of 4.

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I would stick to the wood chips that are available from your homebrew supplier. There is a large selection available.

One may be temped to cut up an old liquor barrel or cubing a known safe species of wood. But care needs to be taken not to contaminate the wood with the cutting tool, saws have coatings and oils etc. The chips made for brewing have been processed with a clean shear so they are contaminate free.

Many woods intended as builing material have been treated, or at least been processed with saws and plainers that drink oil. That's not to say you can't find decent maple or oak at your lumber store. Just use caution.

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    I agree with avoiding building materials, but being afraid of tools contaminating seems a bit too paranoid for me.
    – Robert
    Commented May 14, 2016 at 19:20
  • @Robert cheap steel file or steel wool can leave enough deposit on wood to give iron taste to your food & drinks. This I know from experience. Can't tell for sure about machine oil,but that wouldn't surprise me much.
    – Mołot
    Commented May 22, 2016 at 10:26
  • @Mołot indeed I threw the oil comment mainly because of chain saws. Though all large milling equipment use oils too. Not in direct contact with cutting area like chainsaws, but near enough for drips etc. Commented May 22, 2016 at 14:23

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