A pub and brewery in town does a delicious porter with caramel and coffee tones. What particular ingredients do I need to add to my mash to achieve this?

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Black malt and Roasted Barley will deliver coffee notes. Using anywhere from 0.5lb up to 1lb of either (or in combination) per 5 gallon batch is the norm. Caramel notes are easily delivered from crystal/caramel malts. I have used a full pound of Crystal 60L in a brown ale and it had a real nice toffee/caramel punch to it. Using less than a pound of caramel or crystal malts is the norm per 5 gallon batch. Crystal malts come in a range of color/flavor values. Try a mix of C60 and C40, or a combination of C60 and C80 for more of a darker fruit flavor.

I also find that black malt with crystal malt is the best way to get coffee tones. As black malt alone tends to just taste like heavy roast. The crystal character really helps carry the flavors to a nice place.

  • I always get more coffee flavor with roasted barley, and more "ashtray" from black malt, but I may be using things in the wrong ratio.
    – baka
    Jan 1, 2013 at 17:31
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    I made a stout with a full pound of black malt, and it was barely drinkable. However, the same amount of roast barley is just fine. Jan 1, 2013 at 20:15
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    For the caramel flavor what about taking out the first runnings and reducing them down like some people do for Scotch ales. Did this for a recent Scotch ale and it tastes great. Jan 3, 2013 at 1:19
  • Reducing down a gallon of first runnings to a syrup will develop caramel flavors, and I have done it for Scottish Ales. But it takes time and more energy (propane) to reduce it. I certainly wouldn't consider it with ALL the first runnings. One gallon will be plenty. However with the wide range of caramel and crystal malts available, I find it easier to just really dial in the flavor I want using more of them than normal. e.g. the full pound of C60 in that brown ale I mentioned.
    – brewchez
    Jan 5, 2013 at 13:50

Im not sure how much coffee flavor youre going for, but Ive been reading a lot (mostly on stack exchange) about making beer with coffee. You could cold press some coffee and add it at bottling. Another suggestion Ive read which I plan on trying this week is to "dry hop" during primary or secondary fermentation with some coursely ground beans in a muslin bag.

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