Take the 2-minute tour ×
Homebrewing Stack Exchange is a question and answer site for dedicated home brewers and serious enthusiasts. It's 100% free, no registration required.

I've decided to stop doing secondary-fermentations on the recommendation of users on this stackexchange.

A Dead Ringer IPA from Northern Brewer suggests 1-2 weeks primary, and 2-4 weeks secondary, with the last oz of Centennial being dry hopped in the secondary 1-2 weeks prior to bottling.

I'm worried about 2 things:

1) is a 6 week primary going to be ok -- will the yeast start to die at this point? (I did a yeast starter and areation)

2) Racking to secondary fermentation leaves the krausen behind. Do I simply drop the hop pellets onto the krausen and let them sink through? I don't want a bunch of holes in my krausen because I think I have a leaky lid on my fermentation chamber. Should I just get a filter and pop only one hole in the krausen, pouring the pellets through the filter, in order to minimize harm?

Thank you.

share|improve this question

1 Answer 1

Dry hopping in primary is totally fine, I do it all the time. It does the exact same thing. The main reason for secondary is getting clearer beer, but I never do secondary as it increases the chance of oxidization and infection. I get very clear beer without secondary just by cold crashing and letting it sit for a while. After kegging/bottling, just let it sit for a while. Most of the remaining trub/hops/yeast/etc will settle to the bottom.

1) 6 weeks in primary is very safe. When you say will the yeast start to die, are you worrying about autolysis? 6 weeks is not very long, I've never heard of anyone having that problem for any length of time. I think it's something homebrewers used to worry about a lot, but it's not really a common problem. Lots of people leave beer in primary for months at a time, yeast and all. In How to Brew, John Palmer says:

As a final note on this subject, I should mention that by brewing with healthy yeast in a well-prepared wort, many experienced brewers, myself included, have been able to leave a beer in the primary fermenter for several months without any evidence of autolysis.

But you do your dry hop at the end, just before bottling/kegging, for however long you're doing it. I would say anywhere from 24 hrs to 7 days is good. Some people go longer, but you're going for freshness here and too long can also impart grassy or vegetal flavors.

2) You generally don't want to dry hop while there's any krausen. Krausen is a sign lots of CO2 being produced and bubbling out of the beer. If CO2 is leaving the beer, so is your hop aroma. The point of dry hopping is to increase your hop aroma, so you don't want it bubbling at all anymore by the time you add your dry hop addition, because this will decrease the effectiveness of the dry hopping as the CO2 will carry away the aroma molecules. After about a week in primary for most ales, the foam should settle and dissipate.

You can make an excellent, hoppy IPA and Pale Ales by simply fermenting for 7-10 days, then dumping in the hops and leaving for another 7-4 days (or less), giving you a full 2 weeks in primary/conditioning. Then bottle or keg and condition for a week or two. You can pour the hops right into the fermenter but you want to be careful when transferring to keg or bottling bucket that you avoid transferring them. You can do this by leaving the siphon/racking cane above the trub line, or putting a filter on the siphon (e.g. a strainer bag). Alternatively you can dry hop in a mesh bag or other straining device. Personally I don't do this, as more contact with the liquid increases hop utilization, but lots of homebrewers use mesh bags or baskets or tea balls to make straining them out easier.

Also I'm not sure why you would worry about "holes in your krausen". Dropping some hops on the foam would not rupture the yeast cells floating around in there.

Related questions:

How long can homebrew stay in the primary fermenter?

Too long in Primary Fermentation?

share|improve this answer
    
Thanks for the detailed response paul. If the krausen is supposed to be a protective barrier from air (for open fermentations), then I figured dropping a bunch of pellets would make holes in the krausen, or better said increasing the permeability of oxygen through the krausen. I'm worried about this because I have a leaky lid. But since you are saying that krausen tends to dissipate after a week anyway, this isn't something for me to worry about. –  Matthew Moisen Jul 18 '13 at 22:38
1  
Oh you didn't mention the leaky lid. Get a new lid!! They are very inexpensive and the amount of time you are putting into your brewing plus cost of ingredients clearly justifies this cost. If the lid doesn't fit, get a new fermenter! Open air fermentation is a completely different thing, you're talking about wild yeasts getting in there. I would not consider your krausen an effective barrier against oxidization or infection. Get a good lid, good airlock etc. These are extremely important considerations for brewing good beer. –  paul Jul 18 '13 at 23:09
    
It's also my understanding that actively fermenting yeast will also negate some of the aroma from dry hopping. Definitely ensure primary fermentation has completed before considering doing dry hopping, especially for an IPA style beer. –  Scott Jul 19 '13 at 20:21

Your Answer

 
discard

By posting your answer, you agree to the privacy policy and terms of service.

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged or ask your own question.